Ok here gos..im having terrible fights going on with Moosh and Jade.Its been going on for 3 days now.I think they are fighting over who is the alpha between the 2..Bella is still here and she is the alpha over the other 2.These fights happen all day,up to 6-7 times!Bella always jumps in it too.Im very afraid one or more of them are going to get hurt.I cant break them up anymore even with a broom.I could never rehome one of them,thats not an option but cant live like this either.And Moosh has a class 3 luxating patella that is just getting worse with all this fighting!Any tips help would be greatly apriciated!

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Comment by Pugnacious on December 21, 2011 at 10:18pm

Yes Terri it has calmed down around here.I know what you mean about collecting yourself after these fights,its exausting!!

Comment by Pug Chick on December 21, 2011 at 9:26am

So are the "cat fights" "girl fights" gotten any less?  We hadn't had one between Louie & Clyde in a while till yesterday.  It came out of the blue and for no apparant reason that I could see.  I was home alone and have found that I must work them towards a door and get them separated enough to push one either outside or in another room and close the door.  It is NOT easy.  As every time I manage to get Clyde off Louie, dumb dumb Louie goes back for more.  Then because they are going at it Bonnie decides she needs to attack someone and it's always Puga.  I have an air horn that I blow which gets their attention and makes them let go.  But then I must separate them before they go at each other again.  They all go in crates for a LONG time out so I can gather myself.  Louie is the alfa here I think as noone messes with him excpet for Clyde when he has had enough of Louie stalking.  Bonnie attempted to be alpha before the arrival of Louie.  Pixie is probably second in line as she terrorizes Bonnie.  She likes to wait for Bonnie to jump up on something and nip her hind legs.  Bonnie has gotten where she won't jump up or down if Pixie is around.  Then I guess would come Clyde which is interesting because he could kill any of the others if he so desired.  Then the poor weakest link is Puga my baby girl.   I know how draining these daily fights can be.  Hope things are improving for you.

Comment by kristen vaughn on December 18, 2011 at 7:31pm
Oh I failed to mention I have 4 girls. Fighting and mounting are a daily occurrence but they LOVE each other.
Comment by kristen vaughn on December 18, 2011 at 7:28pm
I spray them with a water bottle and its called "hot spots" in our house. It works great and they hate it enough that any bottle in hand and a firm no has them scattering.
Comment by Di's spoiled kids on December 15, 2011 at 3:38pm

Well the more I think about it Lizzy is Alpha here, Linus gave into her a long time ago, and she knows it.  I try to tell him to let her have it good, but he just lets her pull the cheeks, ears. what have you, he even lets her have the food. 

Comment by Pugman! on December 15, 2011 at 2:50pm

Yes Tracy, that is what happens.  In your case with three, in my case it can be a real maylay.  The weakest link ultimately is, well, the 'under dog'.  In this case it would be Walker, he tries to hold his own but I rescue him on a regular basis, hence the foot stomping, even the baby gets into it.  In her case she seeks out Mo and latches onto his cheek like a snapping turtle while he drags her all over every where, looking at me like, Dad, squish this little mosquito, will you please!!

Comment by Pugnacious on December 15, 2011 at 2:34pm

Thank you all for responding and some good ideas.Ive come to realize its Jade who has been instigating these fights.Ive also been falling back on her obedience training in these fights.As Pugman said if i can catch her or Moosh before it ends up in an all out brawl and tell her to leave it it works most of the time.I think Jade is backing off a little as Bella gets right into it also..the bad thing about that though is Bella always goes after Moosh..dont know why except maybe she is the weakest link in the trio.Hopefully they will calm down and sort it out soon.Sometimes i just ignore them and hope no one is injured after.Dont they know its Christmas time and Santa will bring them coal???

Comment by Pugman! on December 15, 2011 at 2:30pm

Hmmm, as I reflect on my kids and Alpha.  In the beginning Jeb went after Walker to show him that it was time to give it up.  Lucas stayed out of it and let Walker step away from being the leader.  Jeb thought he had it made then and started to assert himself with Lucas.  Lucas was being dumb like a fox.  Let Jeb expend all that energy to get Walker to step down.  Then instead of having two to spar with, Lucas only had the one Jeb.....go figure!

Comment by Pugman! on December 15, 2011 at 2:16pm

I suppose I left out the important part.  You are and will always be the ultimate Alpha, you will never be able to stop the vying for 'Alpha' position amoungst the younger two, it will stop when they have come to a common place.  You can though insure that they pursue this issue within acceptable limits, set by you.

Comment by Pugman! on December 15, 2011 at 2:10pm

Overlook the spelling, my fingers just aren't working right and I should proof read prior to posting, shame on me!

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