Hello well I had the scare of my life about 15 minutes ago my pug of 7 years Chopper just had his second seizure today. When I was at work this morning around 6am he had what was his first seizure me or my mom have ever seen him have. He displayed all the classic seizure symptoms, rigid legs, foaming at the mouth and urinating himself. I took him up to the vet in the morning and the vet said that because of his age she didn't think it epilepsy but they did some blood work on him. She was saying it could be anything from a liver issue, or diabetic issue or god forbid brain tumor. The thing that worries me the most is that he had to major ones in 12 hours. She said he isn't in pain and it looks worse then it is but still scares the living day lights out of me. Has anyone else gone through this and if so how successful has the medicine been in controlling the seizures?

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my little girl Jez experienced seizures (caused by PDE) in which she would seize for 30 mins, hour etc, wouldnt stop except for intervention from a vet.  the medication she was put on (for epilepsy) worked, so i would definately give it a go! She only have a few very very minor seizures whilst on the meds (10 secs or so, distant staring, not the full on seizure) so it made her more comfortable, albeit a little dopey (she was put on large dosage due to the conditions severity).

Give it a go, it will give you peace of mind if you need to head out and leave him alone...

Good luck, i hope everything is alright with your baby chopper.

xx

On the subject of epilepsy Pugman is your best bet as his Walker has been afflicted for a good long time and is now thirteen, a successful show dog and now father to another three youngsters. He has been on meds for years and seems to be successfully controlled.

Are they likely to scan Chopper, my previous Pug Angus had a massive seizure but because he had a very poor quality of life(he was much older than Chopper) and he was very lumpy, many growths, we did not go through with this, but it is one way of knowing if it is a tumour (god forbid).

Hope this helps.

I will tell Pugman of your problems.

Well he ended up having a total of 4 seizures in about 20 hours. So I had my mom go to the vets office as soon as they opened and they gave him the drug everyone has been telling me about the one that begins with a P. He took it at 10am and he has been fine all day with no seizures. so its been about 15 hours since his last attack. His blood work also came back fine. My vet still thinks he is to old for Epilepsy because he is 7 years old but I think he was having " mini " seizures as far back as 3 years ago because late at night out of no where he would be walking around and he would be and this is the best way I can describe it he would be dry humping air. He wouldn't fall down or foam at the mouth or urinate himself just dry hump. 

 

How soon does this medicine start to have a effect on him? Is it safe for me to assume that he will make it the rest of the night with potential no attacks?

I've never used meds for Milo, i just changed his diet. Talk to Pugman, he uses meds for his Pug.
I apologize for not responding sooner.  Walker started having seizures at around 1 year of age, some small and then some Grand Mals which can be quite scary, the duration was never the same no matter what kind they were.  I went through all the testing also and everything came back as did yours.  Finally when the seizures became much more frequent the Vet and I decided it was the right time to introduce him to phenobarbital.  He is now getting on to 14 years of age and does still on occasion have a seizure, they are small ones and perhaps once a year or more between episodes.  He has lived a happy and normal life.  At first he was a bit groggy due to the meds but with adjustment of dosage that changed and he is in everyway a carefree ole man and I now have three pugs of his sire.  He also did quite well in the showring.  I wish you the best of luck and if Walker is any indication you will have a most wonderful relationship with Chopper.
That is great to hear and I'm very happy that Walker is very well for you. Chopper's vet kept trying to tell us that with his current age of 7 that epilepsy was unlike because it develops when they are younger. She kept bringing up that it might be a tumor but I gotta imagine if he had a brain tumor he would be showing more symptoms then just the seizures. It's been almost 12 hours since he started his Phenobarbital and almost 18 hours since his last attack. Does the Phenobarbital start having that quick of a impact on him?
The impact is as quick as is his digestive system.  Sounds to me like you may have something going for him here.  Remember also that he had a large seizure this time, Walker has had very small ones that at first I never noticed or did but it didn't register at the time, you have said that could also be a possibility with Chopper.  It was only after I became more aware of what was going on that I was able to regonize even the smallest of ones that at times were only seconds in duration.

I can second Pugmans comment, I also have an epileptic pug, we brought her home at the age of 5 with no history and it soon became apparent that she was having strange episodes a few times per month, after bloods came back fine we were given a low dosage of phenobarbitol and BINGO no more seizures. I was lucky in that Mya was never dozy on her meds, she had a blood text a couple of times per year to check the level is fine for her liver/kidneys and thats it.

I know that not everyone wants to give their puggy ongoing meds, however the quality of life and no worrying when the next big one will be is quite a relief, plus those big seizure must have an impact on their little brain somewhere, so I'm very pro meds in my case.

Well Chopper is 9 days strong with no seizures so the meds are doing their job it appears so that is good. The only thing I still am curious about is the affects of the drug on him. He seems almost " out " of it. He is completely aware of his surroundings and listens to commands just fine but he seems to be just mooping around like he is in a daze. Is this something I should expect from him from here on out or could it just be that his dosage is to high? Should I wait till his script runs out and then talk to the vet about this?
Can I also say that if there is a response to Phenobarbital then it very likely is not a tumour, but only a scan can confirm this. Our Angus had no response to a very high dosage of the drug and he was very probably suffering from a tumour.
That's something worth discussing with the vet.  If you will recall, Walker was a bit moopy at first also, lowered the dose just a bit and then he was a normal guy in everyway with the much desired no seizures.  He started out with a half grain in the morning and another in the evening, then only a half grain per day.
ya they have him taking one tablet every 12 hours so I'm hoping I can just call the vet and see if they will let me cut the dosage in half.

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